Kaitlin sits down with Tina Strawn: joy and liberation advocate, activist, author or Are We Free Yet? The Black Queer Guide to Divorcing America and the owner, creator, and host of the Speaking of Racism podcast.

They discuss the number one killer of children in America: guns. Tina explains the movement she is helping lead: Here 4 The Kids and its mission of pushing for gun buyback legislation.

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